mido9

That doesn't mean it happened, especially when the scenario zoe says happened of him is ridiculous.

It would only be ridiculous insofar as how horrifying it must have been for Holowka to do such a thing, not "This is too ridiculous to be true." Scott Benson's story is also… deeply concerning, and describes a person consistent with Quinn's own accusations. https://medium.com/@bombsfall/alec-2618dc1e23e

Sorry, but if more than enough can agree that he was guilty of abusive behavior, I'm not going to make light of any accusations.

"I had a hard time saying the word “abuse” then. Still do, a bit. I’ll talk about my hatred of capitalism or the faith I grew up with, but I don’t talk much about things done to me by someone specific. Part of that is just dumbass masculinity- I can’t be abused, abuse is something that happens to other people. When it happens to me it’s just tough luck or life not being fair, so I should just toughen up. Or maybe it’s because everyone else thinks whatever is happening is fine, and I’m just being oversensitive. Weak. Early in life I’d been regularly reminded that I was oversensitive. When my dad taught me how to throw a punch in 4th grade I had reason to use it the next day. I was bullied in school to the point of broken bones. I learned to get tough about it, or to laugh about it. Yeah, people fucked with me or were assholes. Some people needed to fix their shit. But I was certainly never abused. Impossible."

Oof. That's… certainly an experience I can relate to.

Are you really debating whether or not a dead man is guilty?